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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

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  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  kaik

  I try to keep away from the myths with too much woo these days.

  There is more interestings to think about.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  James Brown

  You will have some strange reading. We conconccted a complicated myth.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  jgnat

  From a superficial view, it seems like a religion second only to Gnostic Christianity. Just kidding.

  Strange that women in other churches have not pushed their misogynist husbands to change sects more.

  I guess they like their mothers and female children to be second class citizens.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  Band on the Run

  I am confused. You say ythat you chose Christianity. I assume you accepted the apostles creed as all good Christians must, as far as I know, so how can you say that such beliefs do not imposes "doctrinal rules" on your thought process?

  Laika

  I don't know what you are talking about. Equality is a big thing to a Universalist religion like ours.

  You might recognize that we are one of the few Abrahamic cults who do give women and gays full equality.

  We see it as our duty and do not follow the usual Christian mysoginy. We think, --- he shall rule over you, as God says, to be a garbage part of Christianity.

  humbled

  No two Gnostics are alike as you say, but we are all equal which is not what can be said by your religion.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  Band on the Run

  You lucky son of a gun. I would have given my eye teeth to have studied under Ms. Pagels. Her book on Eden started me on my path to being a Gnostic Christian.

  I believe that the sequence of how Gnostic Christianity came to be goes like this. Although I don't know if we can prove it for sure this far up the time line. It may not matter too much as we have evolved away from some of our older beliefs.

  I see the Jewish Kabalists and Universalist Catholics as friendly to each other as we both recognized Eden as man's elevation and not the fall that Christianity later put to it. We were both rather proud sects and Rome had no use for those who did not like to kowtow to tyranny the way they could get the church that Constantine bought to do. Gnostic Christianity thus predated the Christianity and Catholicism we know today.

  As to the actual scriptures you seem to want to put authority in, please remember that, according to Karen Armstrong, Gnostic Christians and Jews used to change the wording and position of word in scriptures all the time. We both saw scriptures as being written, not to be literally believed, but just to open dialog about God. They sought God and were not idol worshipers like those who thought they had found a Godinabook like Christian idol worshipers do even today.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  humbled

  "no answer for me?"

  You got just a touch ahead of me my friend.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

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  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  humbled

  From what I have been able to dither out, they had the laity, priests and Bishops. They did not seem to want the various other church offices that Christianity went in for. In today's world, they may have added a few offices. The world is a lot bigger today than then.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  Londo111

  You use many but in fact, few denominations offer Universalism.

  Count the few denominations that do not believe in hell.

  Not many. Right?

  As to women and equality. How many denominations have taken --- he shall rule over you out of the scriptures or the other misogynistic rulew? Like not reaching men.

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

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  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  cantleave

  "Such generosity - to bestow such a favour upon your fellow human beings."

  It is not a favor. It is their right. A right that most Christians deny them.

  Why are they and your religion not as generous?

  Regards

  DL
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  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

  the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

  if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

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  Gnostic Bishop

  Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

  The Gnostic wing of Christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to Christianity and Catholicism. If the old Gnostic Christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original Orthodox Catholic Church or its various offshoots in Protestantism and Islam. The Gnostic Christian Jesus would have a fit and would be quite disappointed I think. I know that this Gnostic Christian is.

  Please suffer through a bit of boring history.

  The main differences that moved the old Christians to decimate Gnostic Christians and burn their scriptures was literalism in reading scriptures. They were also more patriarchal and were not about to grant equality to women. Much later, gays would also lose the equality that they enjoyed. These were Jews don’t forget. The Gnostic version of Jesus and his Father was that they were Universalist. That communistic view of the demographics of heaven did not go over well with those who had a more pyramidal view of what they wanted God to be. War was declared and my side lost.

  That is why we think literalism to be quite evil. Proof is shown by the fact that it led to the Dark Ages, the Inquisition and all the other affronts to humanity that the Abrahamic cults have collectively done and continue to civilized society. Not too civilized but we Abrahamic cultists are what we are. If we were not sinners we would not be seeking a God to forgive us.

  The Gnostic Christian Jesus, and the Gnostic Christians of that flavor, see a spark of God in all people including women and gays. That fact, to me, makes Gnostic Christianity a more desirable denomination of Christianity than all the rest. After all, if a religion cannot accept equality of humans as a starting place, then it cannot be a good religion. All souls are equal. That is scripture. That is why we connect equality to righteousness. If a religion cannot abide with equality of the sexes then to my mind it is not a just religion and is not worthy of the support of moral people.

  Inequality is an immoral position and most of the Abrahamic cults are of that immoral persuasion. They take, --- he shall rule over you, --- to an immoral institutionalized position.

  As the superior Catholic theology, it is my hope that Gnostic Christianity will eventually absorb the non-egalitarian and immoral Christian cults. I hope their members recognize that equality is the right moral system for all to live under, and that as religionists, to not actively support equality for all, would make any denomination of the Abrahamic cults more of a satanic cult than a God loving one.

  Regards

  DL